From exigy@one.net Sat Mar 9 19:06:50 1996 Received: from nova.unix.portal.com (nova.unix.portal.com [156.151.1.101]) by jobe.shell.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA05191 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:06:49 -0800 Received: from mail.one.net (mail.one.net [206.112.192.107]) by nova.unix.portal.com (8.6.11/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA23661 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 19:06:48 -0800 Received: from shell.one.net (exigy@shell.one.net [206.112.192.106]) by mail.one.net (8.7.3/8.6.9) with ESMTP id SAA14318 for ; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 18:18:58 -0500 Received: (from exigy@localhost) by shell.one.net (8.6.12/8.6.9) id SAA15049; Sat, 9 Mar 1996 18:23:42 -0500 Date: Sat, 9 Mar 1996 18:23:40 -0500 (EST) From: Tom Owens To: GSP Users Subject: Patch: Montgomery Ward Message-ID: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Status: RO X-Status: I promised to submit a patch and here it is. S H O R T D E S C R I P T I O N A cheap off-the-shelf imitation of Wes Montomery. Push down the Internal FC to make it play in octaves. B A C K G R O U N D I've always liked the factory patch called "Old Jazz Club." I used to use it a lot when playing with my (primarily improvizational) band. But when things get a little crazy, that patch seems to lose a lot of "oomph" for some reason. I listened to a tape we made one night and determined I needed a sound that was more "extreme," a kind of charicature of that sound. Around that same time, I stuffed a bootleg Wes Montgomery tape in my car tape player and left it there for days, listening intently whilst driving back and forth to work. So, I imagined my lowly "Stratocaster copy" producing that big fat sound and also being able to play in octaves without having to master a new technique. I don't know WHY I've always found that octave thing so difficult... I used an AutoWah in this one. I've noticed that those big hollow body jazz guitars always seem to produce the same sort of attack as the AutoWah. I always thought it was due to compression or overdriving a small amp with powerful double coil pickups. A friend of mine has a Gibson L-5 and it produces that sound when it isn't even plugged in! I don't understand... H O W T O U S E As usual, this should be tweaked to match your guitar and rig. The best tweakable parameters are the EQ, Auto Wah, and anything connected to a CC (this patch has 4 links). BIG TWEAK: My non-upgraded GSP does not have enough memory to use Big Verb or Giga Verb in this algorithm. A better reverb would help this patch immensely. My pseudo-strat (A Casio MIDI Guitar) has Ultrasonic pickups in it. I use the neck pickup and roll the tone knob back to about 6 or 7. It gives it just about the right bassy punch. Also, since I have MIDI capability, I sometimes double this patch with a synthesized B-3. When I feel like pushing some walls down, I really crank the organ at TWO octaves lower than the note I'm actually playing. I can cover three octaves at once that way. W A R N I N G S ! * This patch is intended to be used live and sort of "buried" in the mix. It would probably sound pretty unconvincing in a studio scenario. * The pitch shifted note is DOWN an octave from the real note. The note that you are really playing is delayed when the pedal is depressed. This delay emulates the time needed to strike two seperate strings with a deadened string between them. * If you want to sound EXACTLY like Wes Montgomery, you'll have to learn to play like him. This is a cheap substitute. * To sound like you are playing in octaves you have to learn a slightly different technique than normal. - Stay up high on the neck. Don't go lower than the 5th fret. - Stay up on the high strings. The wound strings will boom like crazy when doubled an octave lower. - Use as few fingers as possible on your left hand. If you're patient enough to stick with two, that's great. - Let the built in time lag make you play behind the beat so it sounds like you have to work really hard. - Make little mistakes and fudge some notes so it sounds like you're working really hard. A little bit of slop goes a long way. - Play relatively simple lines with great hooks to them. That's one of the keys to Wes's genius anyway. You'll become a better musician for it. Trust me. - Slide between two notes when played on the same string. - Play grace notes whenever possible. - DON'T PLAY CHORDS! It totally ruins everything. - Use the effect sparingly. Don't let anybody listen too close. - Swing your ass off. O T H E R S T U F F I have some ideas for the specs and development of the new Patch Librarian that Steve (and Randy?) is(are?) working on. I've been at the computer all day so I'll post those inane ramblings later... or I'll just send them to Steve so I don't bore everybody... This patch listing would conform to that spec. In fact, this is a WORDY verson of it. Any feedback on how difficult this is to read would be welcome. P R O M I S E S I'll shut up now. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- PATCH: "Montgomery Ward" ALG: "El 5-able" Comp Dist EQ FxL NGt Pch Dly 2x1A 2x2 Awah 2x1B Mvrb MMix Left Input; To Pch INP 1 Right Input; To Dly INP 1 Pch OUT 1; To 2x1A INP 1 Dly OUT 1; To 2x1A INP 2 2x1A OUT 1; To 2x2 INP 1 2x1A OUT 1; To 2x2 INP 2 2x2 OUT 1; To AWah INP 1 AWah OUT 1; To 2x1B INP 1 2x2 OUT 2; To 2x1B INP 2 2x1B OUT 1; To MVrb INP 1 MVrb OUT 1; To Left Out MVrb OUT 2; To Right Out Compressor: On, 1.5:1, -35dB -6dB Distortion: On, Clean Tube 6.0 Anolog Graphic EQ: +2dB, +4dB, +2dB, 0dB, -2dB, -2dB, -2dB Master Volume: Distortion On: -5dB (cc=-10,10) External FX Loop: No Sum Stereo Noise Gate: Bypass Pitch Shifter: On, 100, 0ms -12, 0, 12-24 Regen=Off Mono Delay 0.5 Sec: On, 0.000 (cc=0.000,0.043), Off 100, Off 2x1 Mixer_A: 0 (cc=0,58), 100 (cc=100,66), 100 # two mixer control CCs! 2x2 Mixer: 100, 0 100, 0 100, 100 Automatic Wah: On, 81, 100 2x1 Mixer_B: 14, 88, 100 Multi-FX Reverb: On, 15ms, 10ms 1, 16000, 16000 1, 0.25 S, 100 Wet: 100 CC: Master Volume: -10, 10 Mono Delay 0.5 Sec: Delay: 0ms,43ms 2x1A: Lev1: 0,58 2x1A: Lev2: 100,66 . __ __ \ / | / \ \ / / \ \/ | \__/\ \_/ a.k.a. tom owens /\__/ /\ | / / e-mail exigy@one.net \ / \ \_/ / web page http://w3.one.net/~exigy/ \_/ /